It’s obvious that the modern Church has failed. It’s not obvious how, if you ask most people, which is unacceptable. We know how humans behave, right? We know for what purposes the Church exists, right? Then this should not be a hard question. And it isn’t. Like most of Christianity, it’s not hard to understand. It’s hard to accept.
It reminds me a lot of Balista74's(unofficial chronicler of the 2010's GBFM saga ) first blog AKA Society of Phineas before he deleted it over that ''Obama won because of the slut -vote'' post that got him and his blog too much attention in November '12.
'Christ came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it''
i remember a certain fellow years ago ,preaching that at a certain blog where he was often ''castigated ,impugned and censored'' because of it too , you might have a clue of who i speak of perhaps brother?😉
I visited a local church this last Sunday. It is a Pentecostal church. I am not sure what I was hoping for. The people seemed nice enough, but the first problem is the main worship leader is a woman and she preached at us. I did not bring my wife and children with me and I don't wear a ring - I expect they probably assumed I'm single. I left them on Sunday not much more sure of what they are as a group than when I arrived.
I will tell you this, GunnerQ: as a married man who has seen all these same things, and suffered as you wrote before I was married: it is the same, now that I am married. All things are about my wife and children now. Every man has his wife glued to his side. I either arrive without my wife and am "single", or I arrive with my wife and she becomes the locus of activity around me and I remain alone.
I agree with you 100% about what must be done in the church. But how can I accomplish this?
You wrote family is not the church's business. I get what you are saying, and in that context, I agree.
However, as one struggling with a battle-axe wife, I sure wish it was there business. Get a Titus 2 woman to be over at my house to see my wife's abuse, and then train her, and attack her spiritual strongholds. Then have sermons that routinely reinforce the helper role. No More ambiguity about all Moms are great -if that is so, then aren't working Moms better since they do everything a SAHM does, and brings home money? Question mark, because that is an ignored problem.
Lastly, Two weeks in a row in an overflow room, about 6 to 10 Dads have taken their fussy toddlers out to carry and hold them, and about 2 to 4 women have done so.
A male space? Hah, what will all these sensitive and serving men do at church if their wives are at home, or at church and taking the fussy kids out of the service?
'GREAT post GUNNER!
It reminds me a lot of Balista74's(unofficial chronicler of the 2010's GBFM saga ) first blog AKA Society of Phineas before he deleted it over that ''Obama won because of the slut -vote'' post that got him and his blog too much attention in November '12.
'Christ came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it''
i remember a certain fellow years ago ,preaching that at a certain blog where he was often ''castigated ,impugned and censored'' because of it too , you might have a clue of who i speak of perhaps brother?😉
I visited a local church this last Sunday. It is a Pentecostal church. I am not sure what I was hoping for. The people seemed nice enough, but the first problem is the main worship leader is a woman and she preached at us. I did not bring my wife and children with me and I don't wear a ring - I expect they probably assumed I'm single. I left them on Sunday not much more sure of what they are as a group than when I arrived.
I will tell you this, GunnerQ: as a married man who has seen all these same things, and suffered as you wrote before I was married: it is the same, now that I am married. All things are about my wife and children now. Every man has his wife glued to his side. I either arrive without my wife and am "single", or I arrive with my wife and she becomes the locus of activity around me and I remain alone.
I agree with you 100% about what must be done in the church. But how can I accomplish this?
You wrote family is not the church's business. I get what you are saying, and in that context, I agree.
However, as one struggling with a battle-axe wife, I sure wish it was there business. Get a Titus 2 woman to be over at my house to see my wife's abuse, and then train her, and attack her spiritual strongholds. Then have sermons that routinely reinforce the helper role. No More ambiguity about all Moms are great -if that is so, then aren't working Moms better since they do everything a SAHM does, and brings home money? Question mark, because that is an ignored problem.
Lastly, Two weeks in a row in an overflow room, about 6 to 10 Dads have taken their fussy toddlers out to carry and hold them, and about 2 to 4 women have done so.
A male space? Hah, what will all these sensitive and serving men do at church if their wives are at home, or at church and taking the fussy kids out of the service?